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    DIY eGPU experiences [version 2.0]

    [Started 9-18-2009 as DIY eGPU experiences (NBR). Relocated to T|I due to being banned by Lenovo fan ZaZ]

    THIS PAGE IS A RUNNING SUMMARY OF THIS LONG THREAD. >> SEARCH << this thread.

    experiences [2.0]

    N
    E
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    S

    (05-16-2013) i5-2540M 2.6 +GTX660@x1.2Opt impl
    (04-18-2013) i7-2630QM 2.0 +GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt impl
    (04-15-2013) i7-3612QM 2.1 +GTX670@x1.2Opt impl-mPCIe
    (04-06-2013) I5-3210M 2.5 +GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt impl
    (03-27-2013) Thunderbolt, MXM, USB 3.0, PCIe 2.0 eGPU update
    (03-26-2013) i5-2520M 2.5 + GTX650Ti@x1.2Opt impl
    (03-21-2013) i7-2640M 2.8 +GTX660@x1.2Opt impl
    (03-10-2013) i7-3612QM 2.1 +GTX680@x1.2Opt impl
    (03-04-2013) i5-3210M 2.5 +GTX660Ti/HD7870@x2.2 impl (MBP)
    (03-03-2013) i5-2520M 2.5 +GTX480@x1.2Opt impl
    (02-08-2013) i7-2630QM +HD7970@x1.2 mPCIe-impl
    (01-26-2013) i7-2760QM 2.4 +GTX650@x1.1Opt mPCIe-impl
    Important Notices

    13-4-2013: calling on notebook systemboard manufacturers (Foxconn, Inventec, etc) to attach their expresscards slot in the upcoming Intel Haswell platform using the pci-e 3.0 Northbridge rather than the pci-e 2.0 Southbridge. That will give eGPU users x1 3.0 link speed, equivalent to 2011-2013 Thunderbolt but better it as a x1 link allows NVidia Fermi/Keplar eGPU pci-e compression to engage as well. Use of the Expresscard slot means no annoying Intel Thunderbolt certification/licensing issues to deal with either.

    12-8-2012: Notice about Thunderbolt (TB) eGPUs. Current TB gives a 10Gbps channel to the eGPU, equivalent to x2 2.0+12.5% bandwidth as discussed, less than the x4 2.0 original thought. It's only slightly doubles what Sandy/Ivy Bridge expresscard/mPCIe x1 2.0 notebooks provide at considerably more cost. For x4 2.0 performance need to wait till 2014 when 20Gbps Thunderbolt will be available.

    A US$140 BPlus TH05 x2 2.0 Thunderbolt adapter is excellent value to accompany a 2011/2012 Macbook. I'd avoid overpriced Sonnet/Magma TB boxes for their measly 12.5% better performance over a TH05. A TH05 delivers 89% of their performance for less than 1/3 their price. An absolute bargain!! <--- TH05 is discontinued. See TH05 Recall Notice for details.
























































































    GETTING STARTED >>>
     
    IntroductionA brief introduction with the story of the solution.


    Pros and Cons


    A summary of the pros and cons of a DIY eGPU


    Pre purchase FAQ


    Answers to questions before you commit


    First steps
    Parts/software/info for a successful installation


    Performance: AMD versus NVIDIA benchmark results


    Compares AMD and NVIDIA perf on the same sys


    Performance: Scaling Analysis


    Compare performance over x1, x1E, x1.Opt, x2, x2E links


    Implementations: Examples and Leaderboard


    A table of eGPU implementations by NBR users


    Implementations: Macbook


    Implementations on Mac systems


    Implementations: CUDA/OpenCL


    Implementations using the GPU for applications+computation


    Implementations: non-video


    Non-video implementations: soundcards atm


    Non English eGPU forums


    eGPU forums in non-English speaking locales


    Archived news


    Misc other articles













    INTRODUCTION >>>

    This thread is dedicated to the practical application of these products to attach a desktop external Graphics Processing Unit to a notebook via a expresscard, mPCIe slot, or Thunderbolt port. Ideally, this thread is a place for users to share installation and performance details for others to duplicate or reference.

    * SimoxTav's Video
    game benchmarking

    * Graw/TWE/MafiaII
    12" Len.X201t+HD5770

    * StarcraftII
    13"_Dell_M1330+GTX460

    * Star Trek Online
    15"_Macbook Pro+GT240
    Gaming videos running on DIY eGPU or ViDock implementationsUS$70 PE4L-EC2C (expresscard) or PE4L-PM3N (mPCIe) products$91 PE4H-EC2C (expresscard) or PE4H-PM3N (mPCIe) productsHP 2560P GTX560Ti @x1.2Opt DIY eGPU impl playing NFS Shift on the internal LCDSony VPC-Z11 running 3 displays: 1 via onboard graphics, 2 via eGPUHP 2510P: [mPCIe] Swap wifi card via underside covers
    If you run Windows 7 exclusively, it is very easy to enable the eGPU without a reboot. Just standby the system, plug in the PE4L, resume, Windows 7 detects the desktop GPU and reverts back to how you have your desktop setup (eg: HD5750 as primary or extended display). Easy.

    The performance difference b/w the onboard 4500MHD/HD3000 and an attached desktop eGPU is staggering. The Inspiron 1440 using the x1E tweak saw 3dmark06 go from 866 to 9551. RE5 benchmark went from an unplayable 4.1FPS to a very playabe 60.9FPS. The HP 2560P's x1.2Opt link saw 3dmark06 increase over 4 times to 18340 and RE5 gave an average of 148.3FPS(!!), even allowing the internal LCD to be driven by the eGPU.







    PROS AND CONS >>>

    Pros

    • Inexpensive: US$78-shipped PE4L with HD5770+120W=$200, GTS450+120W=$160, GTX460-1GB+430W=$210, GT430+72W=$130, HD5670+72W=$140. Add $66 for a x2 capable kit using a PE4H.


    • can be used on any system with an accessible expresscard OR mPCIe slot

    • has inexpensive eGPU  enclosure examples if you want an enclosure

    • 10 times or more increase in video performance

    • can have Internal LCD-only setup: NVIDIA Optimus or Ultramon/Chung-Gun method.

    • provides additional HDMI video+audio, s-video and VGA out

    • provides dual-link DVI connection for 2560x1600 LCDs

    • allows multi-monitor connectivity:

      • AMD Eyefinity to provide up to 3 LCDs attached to any HD54xx or better card.

      • Drive up to 6 LCDs to using a HD7xxx or better card supporting Eyefinity 2.0

      • AMD FirePro 2450, 2450x1, and 2460 to drive up to 4 monitors from a low power card

      • NVIDIA Surround can connect up to 4 simultaneous LCDs.


    • easy, on-demand attachment without a reboot if running Win7

    • can be reused after a system upgrade, or shared amongst multiple systems

    • see an extra 30-60% in performance when attached to an expresscard 2.0 system, or do a x2 1.0 setup


    • provides an additional USB port when connected to expresscard slot

    • Time-share your desktop video card b/w your desktop and notebook system.

    • perform CUDA/OpenCL processing for applications that support it like Adobe CS5/Premiere [NVIDIA graphics only]

    • ability to use physX/hybrid physX & game detail


    • components can become a stepping stone to a full deskop system if want higher performance


    Cons


    • requires a 12V PSU to drive the desktop eGPU


    • requires an external LCD/CRT/TV to connect to display at highest FPS  

    • may require booting DIY eGPU Setup 1.x from a disk image or USB stick to overcome error 12 issues

    • restricted bandwidth: a x1/x2/x4 link represents 1/16, 1/8 or 1/4 the bandwidth of a x16 slot.




    PRE PURCHASE FAQ >>>

    1. How does a DIY eGPU differ from a Villagetronic ViDock3/4?

    Spoiler

    2. How can I check if my notebook is compatible with an eGPU?

    Spoiler

    3. I don't have an ExpressCard slot. Can I still do use a eGPU?

    Spoiler

    4. Can I make this work using just my notebook's LCD display?

    Spoiler

    5. (Performance) What affects the performance of a eGPU?

    Spoiler

    6. (Performance) Can my system do a PE4H x2 or x4 link as shown in PCIe Scaling Analysis?

    Spoiler

    7. (Performance) What recommended candidate notebooks should I buy for best performance?

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    8. (Performance) Can I do a SLI/Crossfire implementation combining mPCIe+mPCIe or EC+mPCIe ports?

    Spoiler

    9. (Performance) How could manufacturers make eGPU x2 2.0 notebooks?

    Spoiler

    10. My system has switchable graphics. Can I still do install a DIY eGPU?

    Spoiler

    11. My Villagetronic ViDock product isn't working. Can you help?

    Spoiler

    12. Can I solder my own adapter to host an eGPU instead of buying one from HIT, BPlus, Redtrontech, Villagetronic?

    Spoiler

    13. What do I need to run the fastest x1.2Opt link shown in the implementations?

    Spoiler



    FIRST STEPS >>>

    See Techradar's How to make an external laptop graphics adaptor article for an overview.

    1. What parts do I need and where can I buy them?

    Spoiler

    2. Which video card do you recommend for best performance on my system?

    This will be determined by your chipset, if additional ports available for x2 linkage and whether you have Intel 4500MHD, HD, HD3000 or HD4000 graphics. The matrix below makes recommendations based on the system chipset with:

    -LIME recommend NVIDIA Fermi/Keplar (GT430 or better) solution for best performance

    -RED recommend AMD HD5750 or better solution for best performance

    -CYAN choose based on preferred performance bias: DX9 (AMD HD5750 or better) or DX10/DX11 (NVIDIA Fermi/Keplar). Though specifically for x1 1.0 I recommend a system upgrade to a better performing candidate as users find uneven & choppy performance. Thunderbolt users may still elect NVidia Optimus solution (if have an iGPU) as then can then render the image to the internal LCD. Refer to Performance: AMD versus NVIDIA benchmark results to help you decide. If not sure then suggest a NVIDIA Fermi/Keplar solution which on balance gives better overall performance and has the option of x1.Opt with the right notebook. Note: if the NVIDIA x1.Opt driver was unlocked to allow primary video cards other than Intel 4500MHD/HD/HD3000/HD4000 plus it engaged with x2 links then I would recommend only NVIDIA solutions.


















































































































































    I/O Chipset


     


    PCIe 1.0 (2.5GT/s) lanes


     


    PCIe 2.0 (5GT/s) lanes


     


    PCIe 3.0 (~10GT/s) lanes


    x1

    x1E

    x1.Opt

    x2/x4

    x2E

    x2.Opt

    x1

    x1.2Opt

    x2/x4 (TB)

    x1

    x1.3Opt

    x2/x4 (TB)

    AMD RS*

    Y1

    N

    N

    ?

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    NVIDIA MCP*

    Y1

    N

    N

    ?

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    Intel ICH7M

    Y

    Y3

    N

    Y5

    Y4

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    Intel ICH8M

    Y

    Y3

    N

    Y5

    Y4

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    Intel ICH9M

    Y

    Y3

    Y2

    Y5

    Y4

    N2

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    Intel Series-5(1st-gen i-core)

    Y

    N

    Y2

    Y5

    N

    N2

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    N

    Intel Series-6(2nd-gen i-core)

    Y

    N

    Y2

    N6

    N

    N26

    Y

    Y2

    Y6

    N

    N

    N

    Intel Series-7(3rd-gen i-core)

    Y

    N

    Y2

    N6

    N

    N26

    Y

    Y2

    Y6

    N7

    N7

    Y6
    Left-to-right: slowest-to-fastest with NVIDIA x1.Opt and x2 delivering similiar performance

    1 provides full duplex performance equivalent to x1E on Intel chipsets.

    2 Optimus tweak engages only when Intel 4500MHD/HD/HD3000/HD4000 primary graphics AND x1 link is detected, improving mostly DX9 performance by 20-333% with some DX10 improvements as well. Provides ability for the internal LCD to render games running on the external GPU.

    3 x1E tweak uses a x2 link on port1, 3 or 5 with a single lane for 15-30% more perf (AMD/non-Fermi|Keplar NVIDIA only).
    4 x2E tweak use two lanes of a x4 link, [port1+2] as EC+mPCIe or mPCIe+mPCIe for 30-60% more perf (AMD/non-Fermi|Keplar NVIDIA only).
    5 x2=combining expresscard+mPCIe or mPCIe+mPCIe slots [p1+2], [p3+4], [p5+6] or [p7+8]; x4=[p1+2+3+4] or [p5+6+7+8].
    6Series-6/7: Only for Thunderbolt-equipped notebooks. Trying to combine mPCIe+expresscard slots no longer possible as Intel now locking the link width in the flash descriptor. Requires advanced bios hacking to configure x2 link, cannot be done using Setup 1.x.
    7: would only be possible if the expresscard slot was wired to the northbridge which runs pci-e 3.0. All expresscard slots so far have been using the southbridge which is currently limited to pci-e 2.0. So we can say this is not possible.
    ? Don't know if non-Intel chipsets can do x2 links.


    If going AMD, recommend a HD5xxx+ series card over a HD4xxx series due to their more efficient usage of PCIe bandwidth. Benchmarks would predict a HD5670 to outperform a HD4870.

    Avoid twin-gpu cards like a HD6970/GTX590 since they require 2x256MB PCIe space windows which might be difficult to accomodate.

    Examples based on power consumption requirements
    • 12V/75W adapter: HD5670, unplugged HD5750, NVIDIA GT430.
    • 12v/80w: specific HD5750 units. See comment here, implemented here.
    • 12V/120W: GTS450 described here using DC adapter that is shared between notebook and eGPU
    • 12V/203W xbox360 PSU: GTX460
    • ATX PSU: AMD HD68xx, NVIDIA GTX4xx/GTX5xx

    See also Suggested NVIDIA Setups.

    3. Is it possible to get an enclosure?

    A good thread to see some professional designed enclosures is at redback79's DIY enclosure project. In addition, BPlus offer DIY Box enclosure for US$60 that uncannily resembles a US$10 acrylic aquarium with plastic posts and some hole cutouts. There are others for sale or examples to build on your own, for example:

    BPlus' DIY Box, surrealix's laser-cut acrylic, fatpolomanjr's cardboard box, (celli's IKEA drawer, Elmopol's XB360, Joss27's 5.25" SCSI box, Wolf Tohsaka's Livebox Mini, timohour's floppy holder, fr0z3n's carry-it, Fujian stand/enclosure, airzone (1U), Kallogan (192W AC), hlgr, aodioxp, SimoxTav, #1, sprtnbsblplya, Agent9, Lurifax (mini ITX), kizwan (Aero QX2000, mITX), the endless +XB360 PSU, max_headroom and Oddious (1U), lightnica (JuiceBox), pengy_666's 5.25" drive enclosure, 12V/120W "portable", pimped-up (xb360) which is similar to Building an eGPU (CUDA).

    4. What software setup do I need to make this work?

    Spoiler

    5. I'm using an ATX power supply to power my graphics card. How do I switch it on?

    Spoiler

    6. What cable connects PE4L/PE4H to EC2C/PM3N and is it replaceable?

    Spoiler

    7. [mPCIe] What can I do to make it easier to connect the mini hdmi cable to the PM3N?

    Spoiler

    8. Why does my video card fail with an error 12: cannot allocate resources in Device Manager? See Troubleshooting FAQ - Q3.

    PERFORMANCE >>>

    AMD versus NVIDIA back-to-back benchmark results

    HD7770@x1 vs x1E (P8400-2.26, damir001 inc PCISpeedTest)
    HD7870 vs GTX660 at all expresscard/mPCIe bandwidths available (i5-3320M 2.6, nando4)
    HD6970@x4 2.0 vs GTX460@x4 2.0 vs x16 2.0 (i5-2400 3.1, tomshardware)
    GTX670@x1.2Opt vs GTX560Ti (i7-2820QM 2.3, carage)
    HD5850@x1.2 vs GTX460@x1.2Opt (i7-2630QM 2.0, timohour)
    NVS4200M vs GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt (i7-2670QM, Tom_ger)
    GTX680@x1.2Opt vs x1.1Opt and GTX580 versus GTX680@x1.1Opt (i5-2520M 2.5, arsenal243)
    GTX480 versus GTX560Ti@x1Opt (i7-620M 2.66, Mikjoa)
    GTX460-1GB versus GTX560Ti @x1.1Opt (i5-2520M 2.5, Warwickeo)
    GTS450 versus GTX460 @x1.Opt (i7-640M 2.80, docusyn)
    HD5750 versus GTX470 on x1, x1.Opt and x2 links (i5-430M 2.26, nando4)
    HD5750 versus GTX460 on x1 and x1E links (T9300-2.5, ithildin)
    HD5750 versus GTX470 on x1, x1E, x1.Opt and x2 links (T6600-2.2/T2050-1.6/U7600-1.2, nando4)

    Scaling Analysis

    HD5870@x2 1.0 vs x16 2.0 (i7-720QM/i7-3820, kizwan)
    HD7970 versus GTX680: pci-e scaling x4, x8, x16 @pci-e 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0
    HD7970: pci-e 3.0 x2, x4, x8, x16 scaling
    GTX580: x1.2Opt vs x1.1Opt +30% overclock & (i7-2920XM 2.4, Khenglish)
    GTX560Ti: x1.2Opt vs x1.1Opt [internal LCD vs external LCD] (i5-2540M 2.6, nando4)
    HD5850: x16, x4, x2, x1 (~i7-2820QM, timohour)
    HD5870: x2 versus x1 (i7-720QM 1.6, kizwan)
    GTX580+GTX460: x2 vs x1 vs GTX260M (P8700-2.53, mangos47)
    GTX460@x1.Opt scaling analysis internal vs external LCD, +25% PCIe, +40% GPU core O/C (L9600@2.90, nando4)
    GTX460@x2 scaling analysis +20% cpu, +20% PCIe, ~20% GPU (T9400-2.53, khenglish)
    HD5750: x1 versus x1E (T9300-2.5, ithildin)

    MACBOOK >>>

    04-03-2011 MacBook 17 T7600-2.33 with X1600 + HD6850 implemented with Win7/32
    11-10-2010 Mac Mini T7200-2.0 + HD5450 implemented with Win7.
    11-05-2010 MBP 17" T2600-2.16 with X1600 + GT240M result with Win7.
    9-27-2010 MBP 15" Unibody T7500-2.2, 6GB RAM with 8600M GT+HD4650/HD5770-7LCDs impl. & & & with Win7.
    8-11-2010 MBP 15" Unibody T7500-2.2 with 8600M GT + HD4870 implemented with Win7 and MacOS 10.6

    For MacOS DIY eGPU implementations see DIY eGPU MacOS Experiences.

    CUDA/OPENCL APPLICATIONS >>>
    Octane Render: 10x faster than CPU-based rendering.
    Badaboom: CUDA based video transcoding

    NON-VIDEO PCI-E CARDS >>>
    Creative SB X-Fi Titanium desktop sound card via the ExpressCard slot. See details.

    NON ENGLISH eGPU FORUMS >>>



    ARCHIVED NEWS >>>



    Acknowledgements Many thank yous to all the members who have shared their DIY eGPU experiences for others to be able to learn from and duplicate.
    Last edited by nando4; 05-16-2013 at 07:25 AM.
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    13" Macbook Pro i5-3210M 2.5 8GB 500GB HD4K +GTX660Ti@x2.2 DIY eGPU (TH05) 3dmk6/vant.gpu/11.gpu=18569/24363/7810
    12" HP 2570P i5-3360M 2.8 8GB 500GB HD4K +GTX660Ti@x1.2Opt DIY eGPU (PE4L) 3dmk6/vant.gpu/11.gpu=20845/23698/7750 <-- upgradeable to i7-QM

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    IMPLEMENTATIONS >>>

    Examples and Leaderboard

    Game screenshots taken by hitting ALT+TAB to go into the windowed mode, then ALT+PRTSC to capture screen. NVIDIA users: please set PhysX in the NVIDIA Control Panel to use the CPU rather than the GPU. Disable the external video card's HDMI audio for best performance.

    DX9-centric Performance: RE5 1280x800-variable, 3dmark06 1280x1024, +optional any other current games.




















































































































































































































      System
      CPU
      RAM
      benchmk
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      Experience details
      1.x1
      Ports2
      OS
      Thunderbolt portSeries6/7??HD7970@x2.2
        GTX680@x2.2
        --86% of x16 2.0 performance
          73% of x16 2.0 performance
          HM6x/QM6x TB
            HM7x/QM7x TB
            Win7/64
            15" Lenovo W530i7-3820QM 2.716.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt23995PearfQM77 ECWin7/64
            15" Lenovo T520i7-2860QM 2.516.0GTX680@x1.2Opt23749226.8Kuro-D & &QM67 ECWin7/64
            15" Dell Lat.E6520i7-2920XM 2.48.0GTX580@x1.2Opt22596193.0Khenglish &QM67 ECWin7/64
            15" Lenovo W520i7-2820QM 2.312.0GTX680@x1.2Opt22400gothic860QM67 ECWin7/64
            15" Macbook Pro Retinai7-3820QM 2.716.0GTX560Ti@x2.217979ShelltoeQM77 TBWin8/64
            15" Lenovo W520i7-2760QM 2.44.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt21861zseroQM67 ECWin7/64
            12" Lenovo X230i7-3520M 2.92.0GTX580@x1.2Opt21178trylleQM77 ECWin7/64
            13" Sony SVZ i7-3612QM 2.18.0GTX480@x1.2Opt21448188.9MikjoA justing6YHM77 mPCIeWin7/64
            15" Lenovo T520i7-2670QM 2.28.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt19537Tom_ger bolusooQM67 ECWin7/64
            13" Macbook Pro Retinai7-3520M 2.98.0GTX670@x2.215405boony1 & kloperHM77 TBWin8/64
            15" Dell Vostro 3560i7-3632QM 2.28.0GTX560@x1.2Opt18139tondyHM77 ECWin7/64
            15" Lenovo W520i7-2630QM 2.08.0GTX480@x1.2Opt18125166.1accountabcQM67 ECWin7/64
            13"_Sony_Z21i7-2620M 2.78.0GTX480@x1.2Opt19900161.0MikjoAYHM67 mPCIeWin7/64
            12" Dell Lat.E6230i5-3320M 2.68.0GTX660@x1.2Opt19673159.6nando4QM77 ECWin7/64
            12" Dell Lat.E6230i5-3320M 2.68.0HD7870@x1.219653157.4nando4QM77 ECWin7/64
            12" Lenovo X230i5-3360M 2.88.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt19496Drew90QM77 ECWin7/64
            12" Lenovo X220i7-2640M 2.88.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt19461157.0jemino & DrizzitT hroth
              secure-corp
              QM67 ECWin7/64
              15" HP 4530si7-2630QM 2.08.0GTX460@x1.2Opt17889150.0timohourHM65 ECWin7/64
              12" HP 2560Pi5-2540M 2.68.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt18340148.3nando4 SimoxTavQM67 ECWin7/64
              14" HP 8460Pi5-2540M 2.68.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt18220bjormQM67 ECWin7/64
              12" Lenovo X220Ti5-2520M 2.58.0GTX680@x1.2Opt18078144.0arsenal243 QM67 ECWin7/64
              12" Lenovo X220i5-2520M 2.58.0GTX560Ti4@x1.2Opt17879143.6CabaalQM67 ECWin7/64
              12" Lenovo X220i5-2520M 2.54.0GTX570@x1.2Opt18038141.4papluhQM67 ECWin7/64
              15" Dell Lat.E6520i7-2920XM 2.48.0GTX460@x1.1Opt20661141.3Khenglish QM67 ECWin7/64
              15" HP 4530si7-2630QM 2.08.0HD5850@x1.217765139.9timohourYHM65 ECWin7/64
              15" Fujitsu AH531i5-2410M 2.38.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt16393133.1Fardavid & gnostykYHM65 ECWin7/64
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                    12" Lenovo X220i5-2520M 2.58.0GTX560Ti4@x1.2Opt17973181.4CabaalQM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220i5-2520M 2.54.0GTX570@x1.2Opt18198174.0papluhQM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" Dell Lat.E6230i5-3320M 2.68.0GTX660@x1.2Opt20331159.4nando4QM77 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220i7-2640M 2.88.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt16693157.4jemino &QM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Lenovo W520i7-2760QM 2.44.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt4202zseroQM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Lenovo W530i7-3820QM 2.716.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt16520PearfQM77 ECWin7/64
                    14" HP 8460Pi5-2540M 2.68.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt16481bjormQM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" Samsung Series-4i5-2410M 2.38.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt16155xxlukexxYHM65 ECWin7/64
                    15" Fujitsu AH531i5-2410M 2.38.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt15880155.4Fardavid & gnostykYHM65 ECWin7/64
                    12" HP 2560Pi5-2540M 2.68.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt15587147.5nando4 SimoxTavQM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" HP 4530si7-2630QM 2.08.0GTX460@x1.2Opt14241145.0timohourHM65 ECWin7/64
                    14" Lenovo_Y460i7-640M 2.88.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt14483madseasonYHM55 ECWin7/64
                    15" Sager NP2096E8435@3.54.0GTX460@x211989138.3Khenglish & & &YICH9M EC+mPCIeWin7/64
                    13" Sony_VPC-Z12i7-620M 2.668.0GTX580@x1.Opt18831Phatboy69 HM57: ECWin7/64
                    13" Sony_VPC-Z11i7-620M 2.668.0GTX580@x1.Opt17957128.8pyr0HM57 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220/Ti7-2620M 2.78.0GTX560Ti@x1.1Opt14578120.2Xav / SuumasQM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Dell XPS15.L502i7-2720QM 2.28.0GTX460.7@x1.1Opt118.9wicked20YHM67 mPCIeWin7/64
                    13" Sony_VPC-Z11i7-620M 2.668.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt15426117.7MikjoA &HM57 ECWin7/64
                    14" Toshiba R840i3-2310M 2.13.0GTX560Ti@x1.1Opt14629-anilpalepuYQM67 ECWin7/64
                    14" Lenovo_Y460i5-520M 2.44.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt13953MjolnerYHM55 ECWin7/64
                    15" Acer 5755Gi7-2630QM 2.08.0GTX560Ti@x1.1Opt13348azoriHM65 mPCIeWin7/64
                    14" HP DV4-2000i5-430M 2.264.0GTX470@x2.Opt11183116.4nando4YHM55 mPCIe x2Win7/64
                    12" HP 2530PL9600@2.904.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt11868115.4nando4ICH9M ECWin7/64
                    14" HP DV4-2000i5-430M 2.264.0GTX470@x1.Opt12859114.3nando4HM55 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220/Ti5-2520M 2.58.0GTX560Ti@x1.1Opt14056113.5atticus182 WarwickeoQM67 ECWin7/64
                    13" Dell Lat.E4300P9400@3.164.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt12915113.0nando4ICH9M ECWin7/64
                    16" Dell XPS 1640P8600@2.533.0GTX560Ti@x413542112.0DerbishYICH9M EC+PM3NWin7/64
                    15" Dell Lat.E6520i7-2920XM 2.48.0GTX460@x1.1Opt13233106.3KhenglishQM67 ECWin7/64
                    17" Asus G71VT9400@2.88.0GTX560Ti@x212363RenovatioYICH9M ECWin7/64
                    13" Sony_VPC-Z12i7-620M 2.668.0GTX470@x1.Opt11842yuumaHM57 ECWin7/64
                    13" Sony_VPC-Z13i7-640M 2.808.0GTX460@x1.Opt11686docusyn &YHM57 ECWin7/64
                    14" Lenovo E420i5-2410M 2.38.0GTX460@x1.1Opt11294apacYQM65 ECWin7/64
                    14" Dell_Insp.1440T6600-2.24.0GTX470@x1.Opt1097296.5nando4 &ICH9M ECWin7/32
                    15" Acer 5920GT7300-2.04.0GTX560Ti@x210667AJIEKCYICH8M EC+mPCIeWin7/64
                    14" Lenovo Edge 14+i3-390M 2.666.0GTX460SE@x1.Opt952195.0useafo HM55 ECWin7/64
                    15" Dell Studio 1557i7-720QM 1.64.0HD5870@x21461693.3kizwanYPM55 mPCIe x2Win7/64
                    12" Lenovo_x201i7-620M 2.664.0GTX460@x1.Opt1050392.9AgentYuraQM57 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo_X200P8700-2.532.0GTX460@x1.Opt1033190.6ithildinICH9M ECWin7/32
                    15" Dell Insp.1545T9400@2.664.0GTX460@x1.Opt10092hizzaahICH9M ECWin7/64
                    16" HP HDX16TT9800-2.936.0GTX6601446287.8spaninqICH9M ECWin7/64
                    15" Tos.L305-S5921T9300-2.52.0GTX460@x1.Opt87.4kizakisuICH9M ECWin7/32
                    16" Acer 6930T5800-2.04.0GTX460@x1.Opt1008394.8*Rizzett ICH9M ECWin7/64
                    15" HP 4530si7-2630QM 2.08.0HD5850@x1.21502189.2timohourYHM65 ECWin7/64
                    15" Sager NP8662P8700-2.534.0GTX580@x21412988.3mangos47 &YICH9M: ECWin7/64
                    13" Dell_XPS 1340P9600-2.668.0HD777011394pas2009MCP79 ECWin7/64
                    15" Clevo M860TUP8400@2.44.0HD5770@x2E&962776.3jamesbond007YICH9M EC+mPCIeWin7/64
                    HD5850@x2E1054368.0
                    14" Dell E6420i5-2410M 2.38.0GTS450@x1.2Opt8419 ElmopolQM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Sager NP5793X9000-2.804.0GTX460SE731868.5mental2ICH8M ECWin7/64
                    14" Asus_F8SA/PT9300-2.54.0GTX460720069.6ithildinYICH8M ECWin7/64
                    13" Dell_XPS M1330T8300-2.44.0GTX460720265.3flaunt &ICH8M ECWin7/64
                    16" Asus M60Ji7-720QM 1.66.0GTX465644369.3JohnnyEMPM55 ECWin7/64
                    15" Dell_Insp 1520T8300-2.43.0GTS450@x2563069.1MoerfYICH8M ECWin7/32
                    14" Lenovo T410i5-540M 2.538.0HD68501019659.4timrenzi &QM57 ECWin7/64
                    14" HP_Pav.DV2000T2050-1.63.0HD5750@x2557955.4nando4YICH7M mPCIe x2Win7/32
                    14" Lenovo Edge 14+i3-390M 2.664.0HD6790927955.0useafoYHM55 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220i5-2540M 2.68.09800GT@x1.2429552.7sivikchenQM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Dell Studio 1557i7-720QM 1.64.0HD58701335752.5kizwanPM55 ECWin7/64
                    15" Acer 5742Gi3-370M 2.44.0HD5770675351.0BTRYHM55 mPCIeWin7/64
                    13" Dell_XPS 1340P8400-2.264.0HD5770692349.6Kristoffer & x1E-typeMCP79 ECWin7/64
                    14" Asus_F8SA/PT9300-2.54.0HD5750@x1E5436ithildinYICH8M ECWin7/64
                    14" HP_Pavilion DV4P8600-2.44.0HD5750@x1E521541.8nando4YICH9M mPCIeWin7/64
                    14" Dell_Insp.1440T6600-2.24.0HD5750@x1E500442.1nando4YICH9M ECWin7/32
                    HD4870.2GB@x1E548643.6
                    13" Dell_Lat.E4310i5-520M 2.44.0HD6850705140.5mattlach &QM57 ECWin7/64
                    13" Sony Z46GDP9700-2.86.0HD5770557737.9andeelym YICH9M ECWin7/64
                    16" Tosh.A505-6965P7350-2.04.09800GT@x1E+SFF365137.8OddiousICH9M ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo_x201si7-640LM 2.134.0HD5850716334.0ashura QM57 ECWin7/64
                    14" Lenovo_T60T2400-1.83??GT2402964Kwisatch ICH7M ECWin7/??

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                    OS
                    15" Lenovo T520i7-2860QM 2.516.0GTX680@x1.2Opt86262441Kuro-D & &QM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220Ti5-2520M 2.58.0GTX680@x1.2Opt85852347arsenal243 QM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" HP 2560Pi7-2620M 2.716.0GTX680@x1.2Opt8536Ryan Bui QM67 ECWin7/64
                    14" Dell E6400T9800-2.933.0GTX660Ti@x4.17836bbxYICH9M EC+mPCIeWin7/64
                    15" Lenovo W520i7-2820QM 2.312.0GTX680@x1.2Opt7807gothic860QM67 ECWin7/64
                    13" Macbook Pro Retinai7-3520M 2.98.0GTX670@x2.27491boony1 & kloperHM77 TBWin8/64
                    15" Macbook Pro Retinai7-3820QM 2.716.0GTX560Ti@x2.27178ShelltoeQM77 TBWin8/64
                    11" Macbook Airi7-3667u 2.08.0GTX660Ti@x2.2T7147oripashHM77 TBWin8/64
                    15" Dell Lat.E6520i7-2920XM 2.48.0GTX580@x1.2Opt68832089Khenglish &QM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" Dell Lat.E6230i5-3320M 2.68.0HD7870@x1.264271736nando4QM77 ECWin7/64
                    13" Sony SVZ i7-3612QM 2.18.0GTX480@x1.2Opt6306MikjoA justing6YHM77 mPCIeWin7/64
                    13"_Sony_Z21i7-2620M 2.78.0GTX480@x1.2Opt62162158MikjoAYHM67 mPCIeWin7/64
                    15" HP 4530si5-2410M 2.38.0GTX660@x1.2Opt5924FrulaHM65 ECWin7/64
                    12" Dell Lat.E6230i5-3320M 2.68.0GTX660@x1.2Opt59001759nando4QM77 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220i7-2640M 2.88.0GTX560Ti.4@x1.2Opt5741Fausts QM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X230i7-3520M 2.92.0GTX580@x1.2Opt5587trylleQM77 ECWin7/64
                    16" HP HDX16TT9800-2.936.0GTX66055851326spaninqICH9M ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220i5-2520M 2.54.0GTX570@x1.2Opt51441934papluhQM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220i5-2520M 2.58.0GTX560Ti4@x1.2Opt49191306CabaalQM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Fujitsu AH531i5-2410M 2.38.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt43601418Fardavid & gnostykYHM65 ECWin7/64
                    14" Toshiba R840i3-2310M 2.13.0GTX560Ti@x1.1Opt43371245anilpalepuYQM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" Samsung Series-4i5-2410M 2.38.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt42781371xxlukexxYHM65 ECWin7/64
                    14" HP 8460Pi5-2540M 2.68.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt4240bjormQM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Sager NP8662P8700-2.534.0GTX580@x24219mangos47 &YICH9M: ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220i7-2640M 2.88.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt42111324jeminoQM67 ECWin7/64
                    16" Dell XPS 1640P8600@2.533.0GTX560Ti@x44147959DerbishYICH9M EC+PM3NWin7/64
                    12" HP 2560Pi5-2540M 2.68.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt40961351nando4 SimoxTavQM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Lenovo W530i7-3820QM 2.716.0GTX560Ti@x1.2Opt4049PearfQM77 ECWin7/64
                    14" Lenovo_Y460i5-520M 2.44.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt40411156MjolnerYHM55 ECWin7/64
                    14" Lenovo_Y460i7-640M 2.88.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt4030madseasonYHM55 ECWin7/64
                    12" Lenovo X220i5-2520M 2.58.0GTX560Ti@x1.1Opt37621230atticus182QM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Lenovo Z570i7-2630QM 2.08.0GTX560@x1.1Opt3751primoxtian &HM65 mPCIeWin7/64
                    15" Dell Lat.E6520i7-2920XM 2.48.0GTX460@x1.1Opt36681093Khenglish QM67 ECWin7/64
                    15" Dell Studio 1557i7-720QM 1.64.0HD5870@x23667714kizwanYPM55 mPCIe x2Win7/64
                    15" HP 4530si7-2630QM 2.08.0GTX460@x1.2Opt36211141timohourHM65 ECWin7/64
                    15" Acer 5755Gi7-2630QM 2.08.0GTX560Ti@x1.1Opt3570azoriHM65 mPCIeWin7/64
                    12" Dell Lat.E6220i5-2520M 2.54.0GTX460@x1.1Opt3549kevmanw4301 QM67 ECWin7/64
                    17" Asus G71VT9400@2.88.0GTX560Ti@x23483RenovatioYICH9M ECWin7/64
                    15" Acer 5920GT7300-2.04.0GTX560Ti@x23380AJIEKCYICH8M EC+mPCIeWin7/64
                    13" Dell Lat.E4300P9400@3.164.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt33591248nando4ICH9M ECWin7/64
                    15" HP 4530si7-2630QM 2.08.0HD5850@x1.23308909timohourYHM65 ECWin7/64
                    15" Dell Studio 1557i7-720QM 1.64.0HD58703220572kizwanPM55 ECWin7/64
                    15" Lenovo T500T9900@3.28.0GTX460@x1.Opt30461274WonderGoal &YICH9M ECWin7/64
                    13" Dell_XPS 1340P9600-2.668.0HD77702968pas2009MCP79 ECWin7/64
                    14" HP 8460Pi7-2720QM 2.28.0GTX460.7@x1.1Opt2874666danenick1212QM67 ECWin7/64
                    12" HP 2530PL9600@2.904.0GTX560Ti@x1.Opt28101246nando4ICH9M ECWin7/64
                    15" Dell Insp.1545T9400@2.664.0GTX460@x1.Opt2786hizzaahICH9M ECWin7/64
                    15" Dell Prec.M4500i7-920XM 2.08.0HD68502612727bc2946088 QM57 ECWin7/64
                    15" Toshiba L300T8100-2.14.0GTX460@x1.Opt1011BarkBarkICH9M ECWin7/64
                    15" Sager NP5793X9000-2.804.0GTX460SE2037383mental2ICH8M ECWin7/64
                    14" Dell E6420i5-2410M 2.38.0GTS450@x1.2Opt2032 ElmopolQM67 ECWin7/64

                    Key
                    RED - a x2 1.0 link using a PE4H linking expresscard+mPCIe or mPCIe+mPCIe. All others are x1 1.0.
                    ORANGE - appears to have port layout to do a high-performance x2 1.0 setup using either [port1+2], [port3+4], [port5+6], [port7+8]
                    GREEN - video card that requires only a compact 12v/80w AC adapter for power. No external ATX PSU needed.

                    All tested at 1280x800 except 3dmark06 which used the default 1280x1024 and those marked *

                    x1.1: x1 2.0 (5GT/s) capable system running at x1 1.0 (2.5GT/s) if pci-e 2.0 DIY eGPU hardware is used.
                    x1.Opt: system with Intel 4500MHD, HD, HD3000 or HD4000 iGPU primary graphics using NVIDIA Optimus for higher performance + internal LCD mode.
                    x2.Opt = x2 link, Intel HD graphics, Optimus driver, but Optimus performance tweak only engages on x1 link as found.
                    x1E/x2E: apply x1E tweak to ATI cards and older NVIDIA cards on series-4 or older Intel chipsets to get ~full duplex performance
                    x2.2T: negotiates at x4 2.0 with GPU but is handicapped by 10Gbps Thunderbolt link (~x2 2.0 + 12.5%)

                    1 Requires DIY eGPU Setup 1.x to overcome 12: cannot allocate resources and/or to set specific port requirements.

                    2 EC/mPCIe: expresscard/mini_pci-e slot used by a EC2C/PM3N product. Port layout required for x1E/x2/x2E/x4 mode. Intel chipsets' require port1 enabled for other ports to work so port1 may not be a physical mPCIe/EC slot.


                    Systems incapable of running 4GB+ setups for reasons as explained. These will require a DSDT override to work.
                    1. 41st-gen i-core and core2Duo Dell Latitude have TOLUD=3.5GB.
                    2. MSI CRx20
                    3. Lenovo T420 doesn't work unless use bios 1.15 as explained.
                    4. Sony E-Series i-core has an unusual reserved system device. Only a NVIDIA card can fit around it in 32-bit space.
                    5. Dell XPS 1530M has TOLUD=3.5GB as explained.
                    Systems capable of a higher performance x4 or x2 PCIe links

                    The Orange and Red systems shown in the above table. Also:

                    Systems not capable of a higher performance x2 1.0 PCIe link shown in black in the table above, as well as:

                    Acer 4741G(mPCIe), 5820TG(mPCIe), 8935G, Asus F3JC, G60, N61JQ, Dell Vostro_3400, Inspiron_1545*, HP DV3-2232tx, DV6-2119TX, DV7-3110TX, Lenovo G560, x201s, MSI A620x/Cx620, U200 (mPCIe), Samsung R580, Sony VGNNW29GF, Toshiba A300*, A500-026, A500-031, M305, P500-01g, R700, U500-00k.

                    * = can do a x1E tweak, relevant to only ATI cards and older NVIDIA cards, since the ExpressCard slot is an odd numbered port with nothing occupying the next port and is a series-4 or older Intel chipset.
                    Last edited by nando4; 03-25-2013 at 05:59 PM.
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                    13" Macbook Pro i5-3210M 2.5 8GB 500GB HD4K +GTX660Ti@x2.2 DIY eGPU (TH05) 3dmk6/vant.gpu/11.gpu=18569/24363/7810
                    12" HP 2570P i5-3360M 2.8 8GB 500GB HD4K +GTX660Ti@x1.2Opt DIY eGPU (PE4L) 3dmk6/vant.gpu/11.gpu=20845/23698/7750 <-- upgradeable to i7-QM

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                    Ran out of thanks yesterday! You are beyond awesome Nando4. Great work!
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                    Amazing Nando4!!!

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                    hey nando4, sucks to see what happened over at NBR...i think i may stay here for a bit...and thanks for your help thru khenglish! you rock! thanks!!!

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                    Quote Originally Posted by mental2 View Post
                    hey nando4, sucks to see what happened over at NBR...i think i may stay here for a bit...and thanks for your help thru khenglish! you rock! thanks!!!
                    Thank you for the encouragement. I had to resort to getting messages through via proxy (Khenglish) to help out. Any talk about me, or the ban or redirecting users to TI will see the post deleted and the user possibly banned. It's a crazy level of censorship. Doesn't look like the instigating mods are prepard to admit any wrongdoing or back down either. Sigh.

                    Please PM users on NBR directing them here if need my assistance

                    So may need some proxy services by NBR members aware of what's happened to help other unaware users along. They could PM users to come and post here if they require my assistance.

                    I'll still be maintaining the DIY eGPU experiences page, updating content and adding new entries. Good thing is I have mod access in the DIY eGPU area here giving a lot of freedom to reorganize stuff. So for instance, Setup 1.1x and DIY eGPU Troubeshooting will soon have their own stickied threads There's plenty of other content (eg: modded drivers, SB/Ivy Bridge eGPU notebooks) for other users who want to volunteer to maintain it too.

                    A place to discuss your opinion on my NBR ban

                    It's being discussed on reddit at http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme...hans_g/c6bsxyu which shows concern over the moderator abuses of positional power in my ban. You are welcome to join in to voice your opinions about it.
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                    12" HP 2570P i5-3360M 2.8 8GB 500GB HD4K +GTX660Ti@x1.2Opt DIY eGPU (PE4L) 3dmk6/vant.gpu/11.gpu=20845/23698/7750 <-- upgradeable to i7-QM

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                    Quote Originally Posted by nando4 View Post

                    Please PM users on NBR directing them here if need my assistance

                    So may need some proxy services by NBR members aware of what's happened to help other unaware users along. They could PM users to come and post here if they require my assistance.
                    no prob!

                    the last patch you provided khenglish worked great. i got the egpu up and running, but i used ccleaner (oops?), earlier, and now the laptop can't detect the egpu! i tried to reinstall setup 1.x, but i still can't get it to detect the egpu. any thoughts?

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                    DIY eGPU updates

                    [Posted 6-7-2011 in DIY eGPU experiences (NBR). Relocated to T|I due to being banned by Lenovo fan ZaZ]

                    Thunderbolt, MXM, USB 3.0, PCIe 2.0 eGPU update (Series-6+ chipsets)

                    Updates from BPlus

                    03-27-2013: Masaharu's reply requesting MXM3 product
                    Dear Mr. Nando,

                    Thank you for your information.

                    Roger,

                    Please refer MXM3 information for new product.

                    Best Regards,
                    ------
                    Hi Masaharu,

                    Please monitor the development of this: EXP GDC 笔记本Expresscard to MXM3外置独立显卡 标准套装

                    We've recently had a result of a user attaching to the BPlus eGPU gear to a htpc pci-e 3.0 port getting x1 3.0 results:

                    Egpu for a desktop (htpc)

                    Now notebooks have expresscard slots off the Southbridge which is limited to pci-e 2.0. The Northbridge on a Series-7 notebook is pci-e 3.0, however, no manufacturer is attaching the expresscard slot off that port. Meaning, you could route the MXM slot out as an expresscard 3.0 slot using an adapter to a PE4L 2.1b and get x1 3.0 (inc Optimus) performance using an eGPU. Then again, you could route it as a full external x16 3.0 slot too

                    Something to keep an eye on.

                    Nando
                    12-14-2012: Masaharu's reply to x1 jumper request on next TH05 revision

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                    12-14-2012: Masaharu on new product that mixes best of current PE4L 2.1 and PE4H 2.4 feature set

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                    11-25-2012: Masaharu on x4 2.0 Thunderbolt device ETA

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                    10-01-2012: Masaharu on x4 2.0 Thunderbolt TH05 device

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                    9-26-2012: Masaharu on PE4L-L060A being pci-e 1.x only!

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                    7-07-2012: Masaharu on TH05 TB progress (x2 2.0!!, no DP-to-internal LCD), KZ-B21/KZ-B26 mPCIe products

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                    6-07-2012 BPlus Computex 2012 Thunderbolt/eGPU products

                    6-05-2012 NEW! US$92-shipped PE4L-PM060A (mPCIe 2.0)

                    5-29-2012: Masaharu on PE4L 2.1b product listing and mPCIe PE4L-PM060A 2.1 availability

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                    5-22-2012: Masaharu Thunderbolt, mPCIe products and pci-e 3.0 compliant cables

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                    5-18-2012: Masaharu - mPCIe pci-e 2.0 product with detachable cable available

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                    5-02-2012: Masaharu - mPCIe pci-e 2.0 product sample available

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                    3-11-2012: Masaharu responds to PCI-E 3.0 compliance request

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                    3-7-2012: Masaharu on PE4L 2.1 manufacturing improvements

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                    3-2-2012: Masaharu RE EC2C end reinforcement of PE4L 2.1/PE4H 3.0

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                    3-1-2012: Masaharu RE socketted mPCIe pci-e 2.0 product desired

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                    2-19-2012: Masaharu RE mPCIe products and PE4H 3.0+enclosure

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                    2-10-2012: Masaharu RE Pictures of sample PE4H 3.0

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                    2-2-2012: Masaharu RE PE4H 3.0 features, REQUEST higher power PE4L jack (no go)

                    Spoiler

                    01-21-2012: PE4L 2.1 (pci-e 2.0) will be available on Feb-20-2012 as a US$70+shipping engineering sample. Detailed photos of one are here.

                    1-20-2012: Masaharu from BPlus response to 12V bypass for PE4H DC jack + PE4H 3.0 arrival

                    Spoiler

                    1-19-2012: Masaharu from BPlus response on cable length and some other requests

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                    1-17-2012: Masaharu from BPlus finalizes the pci-e 2.0 compliant PE4L 2.1 pricing

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                    1-17-2012: nando4 response requesting lower PE4L 2.1 price for next 6 months

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                    1-17-2012: Masaharu from BPlus clarified PE4L 2.1 pricing and requests optimized cable length

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                    1-16-2012: Reply from nando4 to Masaharu at BPlus last message below about pricing

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                    1-16-2012: Update from Masaharu at BPlus

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                    1-10-2012: Update from Masaharu at BPlus

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                    12-22-2011: Update from Masaharu at BPlus

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                    12-19-2011: Update from Masaharu at BPlus

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                    12-07-2011: Update from Masaharu at BPlus

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                    11-18-2011: Update from Masaharu at BPlus

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                    11-11-2011: Masaharu about products inc USB 3.0 no go

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                    10-12-2011: Aaron Yang (source)

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                    9-21-2011: GerryChen

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                    9-3-2011: GerryChen summary: using a active transmitter/receiver pair for reliable pci-e 2.0 transmission over copper.

                    Spoiler

                    8-4-2011: new flat cables are now available. BPlus allude to the mini HDMI cable as being the culprit preventing pci-e 2.0 signalling.

                    Spoiler

                    Who has pci-e 2.0 compliant cabling?


                    · BPlus: PE4L 2.1 (avail 20th Feb) and PE4H 3.0 are pci-e 2.0 compliant.
                    · BPlus: a PE3A+riser is pci-e compliant, as is a modded PE3A. The latter is a cableless solution with the eGPU butted right up against the expresscard slot.


                    · bplus are now developing an active transmitter/receiver pair for reliable pci-e 2.0 transmission over copper. Their previous attempt at a new flat cable only allowed pci-e 1.0 over a longer length as shown. It uses a mini HDMI connector. Interested parties could try a $15 NXG active HDMI cable via two HDMI<->mHDMI adapters, noting that pin18 provides power with HDMI transmitting 5V and the EC2C/PM3N transmitting 3.3V which might be an issue. <-- doesn't work. Khenglish is in the process of obtaining a short mini HDMI to mini HDMI adapter to try instead of the cable. <- doesn't work.


                    · Netstor's TurboBox-mini has pci-e 2.0 compliant cabling.


                    · Apple's $50 Thunderbolt cable is the only one certified to do pci-e 2.0 signalling on copper due to being active in nature. It uses a mini Displayport connector


                    · Villagetronic claim pci-e 2.0 compatibility & but a X220 + ViDock4+ + GTX570 failed to negotiate a x1 2.0 linK as explained here. This was again found on a T420 + GTX460 here. This cable is not detachable so uses no connectors. Affected users may wish to see a refund for misleading advertising OR get Villagetronic to give them a new enclosure that is pci-e 2.0 compliant. . A Lenovo T420+GTX550Ti in a ViDock4+ here confirms pci-e 2.0 functionality (x1 2.0).

                    Thunderbolt Products Updated 4-22-2012

                    MSI GUS II: availability/pricing is unknown but rumored to be $199 with 150W PSU.

                    US$400 MLogic MLink Thunderbolt pci-e expansion: Available in July 2012 . Red Rocket version starting at $800. NAB 2012 - M Logic on Vimeo

                    OWC Thunderbolt PCIe x4 Expander Box ~ single slot chassis at 4x. OWC will be Nabbing Some Attention at NAB. | Other World Computing Blog

                    Sonnet Thunderbolt Echo Express: Available in June 2012. $800 for 150W chassis, $600 for 100W chassis

                    US$979 Magma Thunderbolt product - ExpressBox 3T: Pre-order on the product pre-order page.

                    Netstor's Thunderbolt product - TurboBox : Available soon according to the discussion page.

                    Villagetronic Thunderbolt product: Is being developed. External Thunderbolt PCI Expansion Chassis and Hub in Development - Mac Rumors. Do NOTE, their CEO indicates on their facebook page that Intel would not provide Villagetronic a development kit.

                    Which systems have or will have Thunderbolt ports?

                    * Apple MBA/MBP 2011
                    * Sony Z2 -> it's a proprietory Lightpeak port
                    * Lenovo S430 : the first PC notebook announced to be released with a Thunderbolt port
                    * Asus and Acer will have TB port systems in Q1-Q2 2012
                    * Intel Working on Standardized Thunderbolt Docking System for PCs - Mac Rumors

                    USB 3.0 Products - PLXtech's USB3.0 to pci-e adapter has been demonstrated working with a desktop video card attached to a USB 3.0 port here.

                    11-11-2011: Masaharu- USB 3.0 is no go

                    Spoiler

                    10-14-2011: GerryChen
                    Subject: USB 3.0 PE4L/PE4H development?

                    We still co-work with PLXtech to develop video card to USB3.0 solution this year. Modify video card driver is needed. Eva-Kit already released Oct/2011.

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                    [Posted 3-14-2012 in DIY eGPU experiences (NBR). Relocated to T|I due to being banned by Lenovo fan ZaZ]

                    no more 4GB+ issues: use a DSDT override to extend the root bridge into 36-bit space (Windows 7 only - MacOS/Linux are unaffected)

                    36-bit DSDT override user contribution repository>>>

                    Below are the contributed DSDT overrides created using the details of this post. Linked here to easily find them.

                    Dell: Latitude E4300, E4310 (nando4), E6400 (dummyaccount), Studio 1557 (kizwan)
                    Samsung: 400B2B (xxlukexx)

                    Introduction>>>

                    This problem and solution is only relevant to Windows operating systems. MacOS ignores the root bridge and can allocate in 64-bit space as kizwan found here. Linux has a "noCRS" kernel parameter to ignore the root bridge boundaries so the OS can also also allocate in full 64-bit pci-e space.

                    A small number of problematic systems like the Dell Latitude Ex410 series, Samsung Series-4, Sony F-Series and MSI CRx20 have insufficient free 32-bit PCI space to accomodate a eGPU if have 4GB or more of RAM installed. They can't use Setup 1.x's PCI compaction to create sufficient space because they either have TOLUD=3.5GB, or a lower TOLUD like 3.25GB but with an unmovable systemboard device occupying candidate free pci space making it unusable.

                    Perform a DSDT override or a in-memory DSDT substitution?

                    NOTE: Win8 doesn't allow a registry DSDT override as described below. So either stick with Win7 or do a Win8: Perform a DSDT substitution within Setup 1.1x to overcome TOLUD issues. Win7 users who don't want to do the registry override can also perform a DSDT substitution.

                    Need a 36-bit root bridge DSDT override

                    I happened to run into one of these problematic systems - a Dell E4310 with TOLUD=3.5G, which can be maxxed out at 16GB of RAM. It's too nice an ultraportable to be need to resort to 3GB of RAM to use an eGPU. So I set of in pursuit of how to add a DIY eGPU to it which is documented below. The same solution can be applied to any 3-gens old PM965 chipsets (2007) or newer system. They have a 64-bit CPU and chipset so are fully PAE/64-bit compatible. This fix could also be applied for systems that would otherwise require Setup 1.x's PCI compaction to free up 32-bit PCI space, making it a nice way of fixing a number of problems.

                    The solution requires the eGPU to be hosted in 36-bit PCI space. However, just using Setup 1.x's 36-bit PCI compaction on the eGPU to relocate it in such space will see the eGPU still give an error 12 in Device Manager. Why is that?

                    Avlan confirmed that the 32-bit root bridge definition limited allocation only to 32-bit space. The fix being a modified DSDT loaded as a registry override that extends the root bridge (ACPI PNP0A08 or PNP0A03 device) into 36-bit space. Avlan's fix was cryptic so wasn't attempted on other systems.

                    After a bit of digging I found the QWORDMemory DSDT static resource entry can be used to easily extend root bridge entry into 36-bit space.

                    Ref: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] 64bit PCI range in _CRS table plus two examples at virtualbox and Coreboot.

                    Example 36-bit root bridge DSDT override>>>

                    We can do extend the E4310's root bridge into 36-bit space with the following steps. The iasl and asl tools used plus the modified E4310 DSDT table are in DELL-36b-root-bridge.rar.

                    NOTE: kizwan expands steps 1-3 here. Useful if you need more assistance with these steps. Kizwan also provides a video tutorial here.

                    1. Identify the resources used by the PNP0A08 or PNP0A03 devices in Windows. This can be found by perusing Device Manager->Resources by connection->Memory. Then check the last PCI BUS entry. Eg:

                    Spoiler

                    2. Capture the DSDT table using:
                    Code:
                    iasl -g
                    3. Open the resultant [].dsl file and look for the PNP0A08/PNP0A03 'DWordMemory' resource entries. Under the last DWordMemory entry in that area, add a 'QWordMemory' (64-bit) entry such as the one in RED below. I ensure that I stay in the 36-bit range (< 64GB) so the location is compatible with the PAE-capable Win7 32-bit. I also chose a location above 48GB so we won't have issues with maxxed out memory. The range chosen was 48.5GB to 56.25GB.
                    Code:
                    DWordMemory (ResourceProducer, PosDecode, MinFixed, MaxFixed, Cacheable, ReadWrite,
                       0x00000000,         // Granularity
                       0x000A0000,         // Range Minimum
                       0x000BFFFF,         // Range Maximum
                       0x00000000,         // Translation Offset
                       0x00020000,         // Length
                       ,, , AddressRangeMemory, TypeStatic)
                    
                    QWordMemory (ResourceProducer, PosDecode, MinFixed, MaxFixed, Cacheable, ReadWrite,
                       0x0000000000000000, // Granularity
                       0x0000000C20000000, // Range Minimum,  set it to 48.5GB
                       0x0000000E0FFFFFFF, // Range Maximum,  set it to 56.25GB
                       0x0000000000000000, // Translation Offset
                       0x00000001F0000000, // Length calculated by Range Max - Range Min.
                       ,, , AddressRangeMemory, TypeStatic)
                    4. Create a [].aml file with the 'iasl [].dsl' compiler directive. It may fail to compile because of of some minor syntax errors in the dsl file. Those will need to be corrected with common fixes explained in How to fixed DSDT errors? (kizwan). It may help to try a newer IASL version 5.0 iasl-win-20120320.zip and ask for guidance at tonymacx86.com DSDT forums. DSDT editting alone could have it's own forum. Then try compiling your DSDT again.
                    Code:
                    iasl E4310.dsl
                    5. Loading the [].aml file into into the registry as a DSDT override using 'asl /loadtable [].aml'. You must be an admin user for this to be successful.
                    Code:
                    asl /loadtable E4310.aml
                    6. Check you now have a 36-bit PCI BUS (> 0x100000000) entry in Device Manager->Resources by Connection->Memory as shown below:

                    Spoiler

                    7. While my PE4L 2.1 isn't working atm, so I can't confirm it on the E4310, I can say the same fix was done on a Dell E4300 and Win7 did automatically allocate the eGPU into the 36-bit space. If you still see error 12 then there are two options to pursue:

                    i) Re plug'n'play the devices. Go into Device Manager -> Video cards, delete the eGPU. Also go into Device Manager -> System devices and delete the PCI Express Root Port x entries.

                    Upon restarting the system, halt Win7 startup with F8, attach and power on your eGPU and then proceed to load Win7. Win7 should now be clever enough to re-allocate the eGPU into 36-bit space upon realizing there is insufficient 32-bit space to host it.

                    Can go one step further and delete your eGPU NVidia/ATiAMD driver, restart the system and reload it. That may help as well.

                    (ii) Hard allocate the eGPU into 36-bit PCI space before booting Win7 using Setup 1.x. The next Setup 1.11a has integrated the DSDT override details so will give the user a list of endpoints that bound the PCI compaction, eg: '36-bit (56.25GB)'.

                    With the current Setup 1.10b5 need to do this manually. At the DOS prompt create a new pci.bat relocating the eGPU to 56.00GB:
                    Code:
                    cd %DRV%:\config
                    compact pciend E10000000 useonly [eGPU PCI ID] makebatch pci.bat import devcon.txt
                    call pci
                    :: Chainload the MBR
                    call grub4dos mbr
                    The result will be similar to that shown in the spoiler in step 6 above, but with the eGPU rather then the Intel HD iGPU being in 36-bit PCI space. Can then proceed to automate this by editting your %DRV%:\config\startup.bat (or V:\config\startup.bat in windows) so can just select the Automated startup via startup.bat Setup 1.x bootitem and have it do everything for you:
                    Code:
                    call speedup lbacache
                    call vidwait 60 [eGPU PCIID]
                    call vidinit -d [eGPU PCIID]
                    call pci
                    call grub4dos mbr
                    Testing results>>>

                    * Dell E4310 (nando4): SUCCESS! I relocated the Intel HD iGPU into 36-bit space using Setup 1.x as shown in step 6 above freeing 256MB of contiguous 32-bit space to host an eGPU, so it will definitely work. Plus there is plenty of 36-bit space for the eGPU too. Unfortunately my PE4L 2.1 isn't working so I can't show the iGPU+eGPU both being active but it will work

                    * Dell Studio 1557 (Kizwan): SUCCESS! His HD5870 successfully relocated to 36-bit pci-e space.

                    FAQ>>>


                    1. When do I need to hotplug my eGPU to overcome the error12 with a DSDT override?(kizwan)
                    Quote Originally Posted by kizwan View Post
                    To anyone who tried DSDT override but still unable to overcome the Error Code 12, try connect/power ON eGPU at "Starting Windows" screen, exactly when you see the windows logo animation. When you see the "Starting Windows" screen & the four dots emerged to form a windows logo, it is when windows loaded the DSDT override.
                    2. How to clean the DSDT override properly? (kizwan)

                    (*We will need to delete DSDT key in registry)
                    Code:
                    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSetXXX\services\ACPI\Parameters\DSDT
                    
                    * where XXX are 001, 002, 003 & so on.
                    
                    and
                    
                    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\ACPI\Parameters\DSDT
                    I didn't really tested whether deleting "DSDT" key in ControlSetXXX (XXX are 001, 002, 003 & so on) really necessary but I will test this when I test your latest Setup 1.x. For sure deleting "DSDT" key in CurrentControlSet is necessary. You can access registry via command line. So, you can put it in .bat file.
                    Last edited by nando4; 02-13-2013 at 01:43 AM.
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                    Quote Originally Posted by nando4 View Post
                    Thank you for letting users know. The patch for Setup 1.10b5 is an interim fix and is now included in the new page DIY eGPU Setup 1.x . Those fixes are rolled into the development version of Setup 1.11a with a stack of others. It's release is pending more fixes/updates to compact whose author will be working with an iGPU+dGPU+eGPU rig soon so will be seeing long outstanding bugs and features requested firsthand. Trying also to organize a way to get a 2011+ Macbook too so could tweak the software to work on it too. Looks like Thunderbolt systems still encounter error 12.

                    Can you remind me of the system in question here? Are you using expresscard/mPCIe, PE4H/PE4L version? The method I've found was always successful in detecting the eGPU being:

                    1. Disconnect and power off the eGPU from the notebook.
                    2. Boot Setup 1.1x
                    3. Power on the eGPU.
                    4. Hotplug the EC2C (expresscard) or PM3N (mPCIe). A variation of this if using PE4H 2.4 or PE4L 1.5 is to leave the EC2C in the expresscard slot throughout steps 1-3 above but just attach the mHDMI cable to it with the powered eGPU to get it detected.

                    Some systems do not boot with the eGPU powered and attached. That's a great troubleshooting step to confirm the hardware itself works as the bios sees it and doesn't like it. I believe the Troubleshooting FAQ will be up in the next day or two. It has pretty much the same steps as I list above for getting an eGPU detected.
                    This is actually another system. My dgpu in my last system totally crashed and i was no longer able to see any video output...

                    this system is a fujitsu lifebook n3430 that i got from a friend.
                    Win XP Media Center Edition SP3
                    Intel T2300 @ 1.66 GHz
                    512 RAM (i know it sucks - is it even enough RAM)
                    integrated intel video

                    egpu is GTX 460SE, connected through PE4L-EC2C with Corsair CX430 psu


                    Actually, i have tried all of the methods you have listed (in setup 1.x help menus) including the one above. nothing has worked. before it actually worked when the egpu was plugged in before i turned on the laptop, but i'm not sure what happened. do i need to get more memory? the laptop can support up to 2gb.

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