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    Hi nando4,

    So if I got this right, that means that you can pair a PE4H with a PM060a for PCI-e 2.0 performance, thus Opt 1.2?

    I'm in the process of working out with HIT an exchange for the PE4H+PM3N (just received it in the mail yesterday) for a PE4L+PM060a**. Is there confirmation/proof anywhere else about this? If this is the case, it would simply mine and HIT's effort in my situation. The guys at HIT have been more than accommodating with me, and I'm over the moon with their support so far. Granted they are a little bit slow to respond via email, but that's not a concern for me.

    Hopefully this great news about the PE4H is true. That would be really great to be able to just return the PM3N board in exchange for the PM060a (if HIT carries just the PM060a boards that aren't soldered to the PE4x).

    ** No confirmation yet from HIT, but my salesperson has said that they will try to work out an exchange such that I can return my entire PE4H+PM3N for credit towards the PE4L+PM060a and receive any left over funds as a refund (since the PE4L is cheaper than the PE4H).

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    PE4H 2.4 supports pci-e 2.0

    Good news for PE4H 2.4 owners. According to a new update at PE4H (PCIe passive adapter ver2.4) where they've soldered the EC2C/PM3N end but left the other end detachable, PE4H 2.4 owners can now get pci-e 2.0 performance if attached to expresscard/mPCIe 2.0. PE4H 2.4 has a nice and study base so was my favorite as an open, free standing device.





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    Quote Originally Posted by nando4 View Post
    This is great news. Other test I'd ask you to do is run the Resident Evil 5 benchmark in x1 and x1E mode. It showed +20% improvement with x1E mode when using a HD5750. REF: x1E tweak. If the result is the same then yes, AMD have fixed the issue and HD7xxx is elevated in stature for older systems.
    Here are tests for RE5, as before are same for x1 and x1E.

    Rest of tests will follow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by damir001 View Post
    Here are tests for RE5, as before are same for x1 and x1E.

    Rest of tests will follow...
    Put a hold on the additional testing. Something is very wrong with your setup. Your performance is less than 1/4th of what is expected of your hardware on x1.1 with the old half duplex problem. Are you dragging the RE5 window over to the internal LCD? If so please don't, since there are many more results to compare against when using an external monitor.

    Also the full variable test is usually run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damir001 View Post
    Here are tests for RE5, as before are same for x1 and x1E.

    Rest of tests will follow...
    25.2 is a bit low for a P8400-2.26 + HD7770. I got 30.8 with a T6600-2.2 + HD5750@x1E here. Techpower says a HD5750 gives 68% the performance of a HD7770 here so you should be getting quite a bit better than that.

    Please ensure you disable the AMD sound so it uses the internal speaker instead. That gives maximum bandwidth for video rendering. Per Khenglish's comments, can you run the variable dx9 benchmark? That's were we can see how it fares on the leaderboard.
    Last edited by nando4; 01-09-2013 at 09:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khenglish View Post
    Put a hold on the additional testing. Something is very wrong with your setup. Your performance is less than 1/4th of what is expected of your hardware on x1.1 with the old half duplex problem. Are you dragging the RE5 window over to the internal LCD? If so please don't, since there are many more results to compare against when using an external monitor.

    Also the full variable test is usually run.
    All tests where run fullscreen (didn't see "window" option in RE5 benchmark option), not on docking bay and laptop lid closed. Getting screenshoot on dx10 results gave me blank screen in fullscreen and [PrintScrn] so i had to play with [Alt+TAB] and [PrintScrn] to get results.

    I will re-check whole setup including disablement of AMD sound on eGPU and redo tests but i do have questions:
    1. Are variable RE5 tests suppose to be run in full screen or window mode?
    2. Do i need to verify in windows is x1E mode really engaged, if so how do i do it?
    3. Regarding 1/4 expected performance, is there anything in device manager you suggest i re-check except disablement of AMD sound?

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by damir001 View Post
    All tests where run fullscreen (didn't see "window" option in RE5 benchmark option), not on docking bay and laptop lid closed. Getting screenshoot on dx10 results gave me blank screen in fullscreen and [PrintScrn] so i had to play with [Alt+TAB] and [PrintScrn] to get results.

    I will re-check whole setup including disablement of AMD sound on eGPU and redo tests but i do have questions:
    1. Are variable RE5 tests suppose to be run in full screen or window mode?
    2. Do i need to verify in windows is x1E mode really engaged, if so how do i do it?
    3. Regarding 1/4 expected performance, is there anything in device manager you suggest i re-check except disablement of AMD sound?

    Cheers,
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    Fullscreen mode, disable the AMD audio, run RE5 var 1280x800 (or 768 if no 800). Your fixed results were a bit lower than expected given a T6600-2.2 with HD5750@x1E had a better result. Maybe that will fix it? If you've changed the port to be x2 mode in Setup 1.x prior to chainloading, that is all that is required. You could use AIDA-64, looking at the southbridge to confirm if it's still in x2 mode if really want to be doubley sure.
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    Hey Nando, I was looking at your recent GTX660 benchmarks and comparing them to last year's GTX560Ti's benchmarks. I was focusing on dx9 (since I'm forced to winXP) and I've noticed that according to your tests it appears that the new GTX6xx series is more bandwidth-limited than the GTX5xx series. Infact, if tested on a desktop the new GTX660 is 20% faster in dx9 than the GTX560Ti, while with an eGPU internal lcd setup it's equal if not slower (in RE5 is noticeably slower).
    Does this mean that for eGPU purposes in dx9 mode, x1.2opt, and intenal lcd I'd be better with a GTX5xx gpu? Am I wrong in my assumptions?
    Thanks

    Edit: my notebook has a sandy bridge pentium cpu (b960) and no dedicated graphics. Will Optimus engage with the integrated HDgraphics (it's very similar to the HD2000, just with a few minor features deactivated)??
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    Quote Originally Posted by noric View Post
    Edit: my notebook has a sandy bridge pentium cpu (b960) and no dedicated graphics. Will Optimus engage with the integrated HDgraphics (it's very similar to the HD2000, just with a few minor features deactivated)??
    No, My understanding of Optimus and Opt1.2 is that your system had to have Optimus prior to installing the eGPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daver160 View Post
    No, My understanding of Optimus and Opt1.2 is that your system had to have Optimus prior to installing the eGPU.
    Are you sure? From the first page:
    "NVIDIA's Optimus can engate on your your eGPU setup if you have:

    • Intel IGP: Intel GMA 4500MHD, HD, HD3000 or x3150 (Pine Trail)
    • NVIDIA Fermi desktop card: GT4xx, GTS4xx, GTX4xx, GTX5xx, or GTS240. A GTS250 or older will not work."



    If I remember correctly what is important is that you have an ACTIVE intel gpu (which I have), but I thought it's not required a notebook with a dedicated nVidia gpu (there's no mention of it).

    To my knowledge, the point is if the SB Pentium HD graphics is among the chips that support Optimus. It should, since it's similar to the HD2000, but I hope someone will confirm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by noric View Post
    Are you sure? From the first page:
    "NVIDIA's Optimus can engate on your your eGPU setup if you have:

    • Intel IGP: Intel GMA 4500MHD, HD, HD3000 or x3150 (Pine Trail)
    • NVIDIA Fermi desktop card: GT4xx, GTS4xx, GTX4xx, GTX5xx, or GTS240. A GTS250 or older will not work."



    If I remember correctly what is important is that you have an ACTIVE intel gpu (which I have), but I thought it's not required a notebook with a dedicated nVidia gpu (there's no mention of it).

    To my knowledge, the point is if the SB Pentium HD graphics is among the chips that support Optimus. It should, since it's similar to the HD2000, but I hope someone will confirm...
    Perhaps you're right. As I stated, it was my understanding that your system had to have Optimus already in order for it to engage...

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