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    [Guide] M15x with Nvidia 470m

    Guide - M15x with Nvidia GTX 470m

    IMPORTANT: The Nvidia 470m is not officially supported by Dell. Upgrading to this card may void your warranty.



    Some background to this mod: The first guy who tried to put a Nvidia 470m in an Alienware M15x was @iloveb00bs in December 2010, shortly after the card got released.
    Unfortunately it didn't work as desired, the card worked, but only at 2d clocks. All attempts to bring it to 3d clocks failed, and the card wasn't supported by Nibitor support at this time.

    Also @widezu69 didn't get it to work a couple of weeks ago, so I didn't think it would be possible. But in the process of trying to upgrade the Asus G73JW of a colleague I got my hands on a Nvidia GTX 470m and since we didn't get it to work in the G73, I thought let's try it again in the M15x...

    I had to mod the vbios to get it running at 3d clocks. I'm not that experienced with Nvidia cards, so that's probably why it took me a couple of attempts to get it working.

    First I changed the 2d clocks and voltage (P3 in Nibitor) to 3d values. The result was that the card idled at 3d clocks, but as soon as I opened a 3d application it went downclocked itself to about 73MHz core and got to 2d voltage again... pretty annoying.
    After some more tests I realized that I had to change the lower 3d clocks and voltage (P7 in Nibitor). This did the trick. Apparently the card only checks P7 and P3 in the VBIOS, the actual 3d clock entries (P15) seem to have no effect at all.

    The fan control works perfectly. Haven't tested DP/HDMI audio yet, but I'll do this sometime soon.



    Things to do before exchanging the card:


    • Download the drivers. I used the latest Nvidia beta driver (v275.27) and the modded .inf files from laptopvideo2go. As the card comes from Clevo I guess the Clevo (and resellers) driver will work as well. But I usually prefer the latest driver for performance and stability.

    • Also get GPU-Z for monitoring your video card and verifying it.

    • Make sure you have thermal paste, maybe some new thermal pads as well as something to
      clean the heatsink (e.g. isoproply alcohol) and some cloths around. I also highly recommend using a grounded ESD-mat and a wristband.

    • Know what you're doing. You need to partially disassemble your machine to get to the GPU. Prepare yourself thoroughly, check out my little GPU exchangement guide and if you need more information also the M15x service manual, as well as the official teardown video. It can be helpful to write down all the steps in advance when you're doing this for the first time.

      In case there's still something unclear about the disassembling procedure after checking out all the stuff I just mentioned, just ask. Exchanging the GPU is really pretty easy.



    • Very important: Make all the necessary preparations to flash the modified vbios to the card in order to get it working at 3d clocks:

      You'll need a DOS bootable USB drive with NVflash on it. If you have already such an USB drive you can skip the next step and simply copy the mod470m.rom file from the attached archive to your stick.

      If you first need to create such an USB drive open an read the Spoiler:


      Creating a bootable DOS USB drive (by @Brian K. )

      Spoiler







    The upgrading procedure:

    1. Uninstall your GPU drivers.
    2. Make a power drain (Turn off your M15x, remove the power cord and the battery. Then press and hold down the power button (Alienhead) for about 10-20 sec.
    3. Remove your GPU - Here's a little guide with pics in case you need some help.
    4. Clean your heatsink, if necessary replace the thermal pads with new ones.
    5. Make sure the 470m has a retention bracket on the back of the GPU. If not take the one from your old GPU and put it there.
    6. Properly insert your GPU, make sure that it sits properly and that the die is clean. Apply the thermal paste, and attach the heatsink.

    Then (after reassembling your system), boot, install the drivers and reboot. Make sure the fans are running (otherwise you probably forgot to plug in the fan). Open GPU-Z and verify your card and the clocks.

    Default 3D clocks are 535/750/1070 MHz (core/memory/shader), you can see them in the "Graphics card" tab of GPU-Z.
    Make sure PowerPlay is enabled in the Catalyst Control Center. Also make sure Stealth Mode is deactivated.

    Check your temperatures. Idle temps should be 40-50░C, depending on your ambient temp of course. While gaming or doing something similar GPU-intense the system will run significantly hotter, 60-70░C, maybe a bit higher.



    >>>Now you need to flash the modded vbios to your GTX 470m in order to get your card working at 3d speeds<<<

    WARNING: Flashing the vbios of your GPU always involves some risk and can brick your card in case something goes wrong. Make sure you know the exact procedure before doing this. I do not take any responsibility for damaged cards, systems or whatever.

    -Plug in your properly prepared USB drive
    -Make sure your system is plugged in (AC adapter and to be safe battery as well)
    -Reboot
    -When you see the Alienhead press [F12] to get to the boot menu, choose "Boot from USB"

    A command prompt will appear.

    First of all, make a backup of your original 470m vbios! Use the following command:
    Code:
    nvflash -b orig470m.rom

    Before flashing, test whether the file isn't corrupted (errors while copying it to the stick or similar):

    Code:
    nvflash -v mod470m.rom
    The image size must be 64000 bytes and the CRC32 3C8FA599

    Now flash the modded vbios:

    Code:
    nvflash -5 -6 mod470m.rom
    Press enter. A couple of warnings will appear, follow the instructions on the screen to confirm the flash procedure.

    Remember, some Keyboard layouts have the [Z] key at the place where the US layout has the [Y] key. So in case you have such a keyboard you'll need to press [z] instead of [y], otherwise the flashing procedure will get cancelled.

    Then press [Ctrl][Alt]+[Del] to reboot your system, unplug the USB stick. You can use GPU-Z to verify the flash of the vbios. It should look like this afterwards:

    mod470m-gpu-z.jpg




    Here some first benchmarks, both at stock clocks, PhysX off and the rest in the Nvidia control panel on standard settings, CPU at 3.2GHz.





    I haven't seen other 470m benchmarks of other systems, but 9k stock vantage seems reasonable.


    The card is probably pretty overclockable, but I haven't tested this yet. I have yet to find overclocking tool with which I can set the core clock manually, so far I only managed to change the memory and shader clock with Nvidia Inspector. Otherwise I'll have to modify the vbios in order to overclock it (which isn't the best solution as I can't really push the card with this method) However, it seems the card can be overvolted, haven't tested it yet but Nibitor allows me to change the voltage to 0.99V (instead of 0.94V).

    The only issue so far is that the card runs either at 3d clocks or at 2d clocks. Nothing between this. (As I said, the card only seems to use P7 and P3, if anyone knows a solution to this, let me know).
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    Last edited by svl7; 05-31-2011 at 04:45 PM.
    BIOS / VBIOS modification requests addressed to me need to be posted here: BIOS / VBIOS modification request thread (svl7)

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    wow super awesome man!!!! can't wait for the guide.
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    Nice Inap you changed your Avatar... love it. Congrats SVL7 +1 pal for that one... what key change in your testing allowed the clocks to stay on 3d? I know we had been discussing this. That's awesome you finally did it.. nice benches too.
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    Thanks guys!! Had to change P7 instead of P15. Now it works at 2d and at 3d clocks. It seems P15 (the actual 3d clocks afaik) are getting ignored by the system.

    Updated the first post

    I'll do some more testing, maybe benching and then I'll try to sell this card since it didn't work in the G73JW. Want my 6970m back in the system, hahahahaha
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    great job man. i was afraid of frying the card, thats why i never flashed it. glad you had the guts to do it.
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    Thank you! Well, when you had the card it wasn't even supported in nibitor if I remember correctly...

    Took a while until I had figured out how to get it working, but at least it's running now. Would've been even better news half a year ago of course, but at least the nvidia guys have something to update now in case they want.
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    thinking of getting a 485m for the r3 to test out myself. seen it worked already but still would like to see if i can get 3d working on it.
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    Yeah, this would be great! But you don't have the 3d screen...
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    just picked up a whole 3d package from dane, screen,460m and glasses. so i'll be rocking both. also have an external 3d monitor too.
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    Epic Post Man! Seriously Good.

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